Thursday, August 30, 2012

Do Mormons Really Believe They Can Get Their Own Planet?

Do Mormons Really Believe They Can Get Their Own Planet?

Mormon Infographic, Do Mormons really believe they can get their own plantet?

Panel Text

Q: Do Mormons really believe they can get their own planet?
A: No!  They believe they'll get their own universe.
"As man is God once was; as God is man may be"


References

[1]     Mormon News Room, "Mormonism 101: FAQ" 
         Do Latter-day Saints believe that they will “get their own planet”?
         No. This idea is not taught in Latter-day Saint scripture, nor is it a doctrine of the Church.

         http://www.mormonnewsroom.org/article/mormonism-101#C14

[2]     Lorenzo Snow; “The Grand Destiny of Man,” Deseret Evening News, July 20, 1901, 22
          "As man is God once was; as God is man may be"


          This quote is reiterated in the 2012 manual:
          "Teachings of Presidents of the Church", George Albert Smith, Chapter 7


Teachings of George Albert Smith

See Also

[Heber C. Kimball] When we escape from this earth, (do) we suppose we are going to heaven? Do you suppose you are going to the earth that Adam came from? that Eloheim came from? where Jehovah the Lord came from? No. When you have learned to become obedient to the Father that dwells upon this earth, to the Father and God of this earth, and obedient to the messengers He sends---when you have done all that, remember you are not going to leave this earth. You will never leave it until you become qualified, and capable, and capacitated to become a father of an earth yourselves. 160 years ago today - Nov 14, 1852



Gospel Principles, Chapter 47, Blessings of Exaltation



Those who receive exaltation in the celestial kingdom through faith inJesus Christ will receive special blessings. The Lord has promised, “All things are theirs” (D&C 76:59). These are some of the blessings given to exalted people:
  1. 1. 
    They will live eternally in the presence of Heavenly Father and JesusChrist (see D&C 76:62).
  2. 2. 
    They will become gods (see D&C 132:20–23).
  3. 3. 
    They will be united eternally with their righteous family members and will be able to have eternal increase.
  4. 4. 
    They will receive a fulness of joy.
  5. 5. 
    They will have everything that our Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ have—all power, glory, dominion, and knowledge (see D&C 132:19–20). President Joseph Fielding Smith wrote: “The Father has promised through the Son that all that he has shall be given to those who are obedient to His commandments. They shall increase in knowledge, wisdom, and power, going from grace to grace, until the fulness of the perfect day shall burst upon them” (Doctrines of Salvation, comp. Bruce R. McConkie, 3 vols. [1954–56], 2:36; italics in original).

Gospel Principles



Monday, August 27, 2012

Adam Is Our God, Brigham Young, General Conf. Report, April 1852

Adam Is Our God, Brigham Young, General Conf. Report, April 1852

Adam Is Our God, Brigham Young, General Conf. Report, April 1852
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Reference:
LDS General Conference Report
April 9th, 1852
Journal of Discourses, Vol. 1, Pages 50-51

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Text of Brigham's Speech: (Same as above)

Brigham Young, LDS Prophet
LDS General Conference Report
April 9th, 1852
Journal of Discourses, Vol. 1, Pages 50-51

My next sermon will be to both Saint and sinner.
One thing has remained a mystery in this kingdom up to this day. It is in regard to the character of the well-beloved Son of God, upon which subject the Elders of Israel have conflicting views. Our God and Father in heaven, is a being of tabernacle, or, in other words, He has a body, with parts the same as you and I have; and is capable of showing forth His works to organized beings, as, for instance, in the world in which we live, it is the result of the knowledge and infinite wisdom that dwell in His organized body.
His son Jesus Christ has become a personage of tabernacle, and has a body like his father. The Holy Ghost is the Spirit of the Lord, and issues forth from Himself, and may properly be called God's minister to execute His will in immensity; being called to govern by His influence and power; but He is not a person of tabernacle as we are, and as our Father in Heaven and Jesus Christ are. The question has been, and is often, asked, who it was that begat the Son of the Virgin Mary. The infidel world have concluded that if what the Apostles wrote about his father and mother be true, and the present marriage discipline acknowledged by Christendom be correct, then Christians must believe that God is the father of an illegitimate son, in the person of Jesus Christ! The infidel fraternity teach that to their disciples. I will tell you how it is. Our Father in Heaven begat all the spirits that ever were, or ever will be, upon this earth; and they were born spirits in the eternal world. Then the Lord by His power and wisdom organized the mortal tabernacle of man. We were made first spiritual, and afterwards temporal.
Now hear it, O inhabitants of the earth, Jew and Gentile, Saint and sinner! When our father Adam came into the garden of Eden, he came into it with a celestial body, and brought Eve, one of his wives, with him. He helped to make and organize this world. He is MICHAEL, the Archangel, the ANCIENT OF DAYS! about whom holy men have written and spoken--HE is our FATHER and our GOD, and the only God with whom WE have to do. Every man upon the earth, professing Christians or non-professing, must hear it, and will know it sooner or later.
They came here, organized the raw material, and arranged in their order the herbs of the field, the trees, the apple, the peach, the plum, the pear, and every other fruit that is desirable and good for man; the seed was brought from another sphere, and planted in this earth. The thistle, and thorn, the brier, and the obnoxious weed did not appear until after the earth was cursed. When Adam and Eve had eaten of the forbidden fruit, their bodies became mortal from its effects, and therefore their offspring were mortal. When the Virgin Mary conceived the child Jesus, the Father had begotten him in his own likeness. He was not begotten by the Holy Ghost. And who is the Father? He is the first of the human family; and when he took a tabernacle, it was begotten by his Father in heaven, after the same manner as the tabernacles of Cain, Abel, and the rest of the sons and daughters of Adam and Eve; from the fruits of the earth, the first earthly tabernacles were originated by the Father, and so on in succession.
I could tell you much more about this; but were I to tell you the whole truth, blasphemy would be nothing to it, in the estimation of the superstitious and over-righteous of mankind. However, I have told you the truth as far as I have gone. I have heard men preach upon the divinity of Christ, and exhaust all the wisdom they possessed. All Scripturalists, and approved theologians who were considered exemplary for piety and education, have undertaken to expound on this subject, in every age of the Christian era; and after they have done all, they are obliged to conclude by exclaiming "great is the mystery of godliness," and tell nothing. It is true that the earth was organized by three distinct characters, namely, Eloheim, Yahovah, and Michael, these three forming a quorum, as in all heavenly bodies, and in organizing element, perfectly represented in the Deity, as Father, Son, and Holy Ghost.
Again, they will try to tell how the divinity of Jesus is joined to his humanity, and exhaust all their mental faculties, and wind up with this profound language, as describing the soul of man, "it is an immaterial substance!" What a learned idea! Jesus, our elder brother, was begotten in the flesh by the same character that was in the garden of Eden, and who is our Father in Heaven. Now, let all who may hear these doctrines, pause before they make light of them, or treat them with indifference, for they will prove their salvation or damnation. I have given you a few leading items upon this subject, but a great deal more remains to be told. Now remember from this time forth, and forever, that Jesus Christ was not begotten by the Holy Ghost.
I will repeat a little anecdote. I was in conversation with a certain learned professor upon this subject, when I replied, to this idea--"if the Son was begotten by the Holy Ghost, it would be very dangerous to baptize and confirm females, and give the Holy Ghost to them, lest he should beget children, to be palmed upon the Elders by the people, bringing the Elders into great difficulties." Treasure up these things in your hearts. In the Bible, you have read the things I have told you to-night; but you have not known what you did read. I have told you no more than you are conversant with; but what do the people in Christendom, with the Bible in their hands, know about this subject? Comparatively nothing.


Thursday, August 23, 2012

The Inhabitants of the Moon & Sun

The Inhabitants of the Moon & Sun

The Inhabitants of the Moon & Sun


Quotes

[1] Joseph Smith, Jr.
"The inhabitants of the moon are more of a uniform size than the inhabitants of the earth, being about 6 feet in height.  They dress very much like the Quaker style and are quite general in the style or the one fashion of dress.  They live to be very old; coming generally, near a thousand years."

[2] Brigham Young
"So it is with regard to the inhabitants of the sun.  Do you think it is inhabited?  I rather think it is.  Do you think there is any life there?  No question of it; it was not made in vain.  It was made to give light to those who dwell upon it, and to other planets' and so will this earth when it is celestialized."

References

[1a] Joseph Smith, Jr., The History of Oliver B. Huntington, p. 10, typed copy, Marriott Library, University of Utah
[1b] Joseph Smith, Jr., (Similar Reference); Young Woman's Journal "The inhabitants of the moon", 3:263-264;
[2] Brigham Young, 1871, Journal of Discourses, Volume 13, page 271

Monday, August 20, 2012

LDS Modern Day Prophecy; Where is it?

LDS Modern Day Prophecy; Where is it?


LDS Modern Day Prophecy; Where is it?
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Quotes & References

[1] Chart Data http://www.afterallwecando.com/count-of-modern-lds-prophecies
[2] "the coming of the Lord, which was nigh--even fifty-six years"
      Joseph Smith, Jr. Quote ; History of Church, v2, p 182
[3] "We will never get a man into space."
      Joseph Fielding Smith Quote en.fairmormon.org/Mormonism_and_doctrine/Changing
[4] "I am sustained as such"
      Hinckley-King Quote; CNN Larry King Live; sfgate.com; Sunday Interview; April 13, 1997
[5] "One, two, three--let's go shopping"
      Monson Quote businessweek.com/articles/2012-07-10/how-the-mormons-make-money
[6] Senator: "Have you ever received revelation from God?"
      Joseph F. Smith: "No sir, none whatsoever"
      en.fairmormon.org/Revelation_after_Joseph_Smith/Joseph_F._Smith_at_Smoot_hearings
[7] "How can we know when a message has not been spoken by the LORD?  If what a prophet proclaims
      in the name of the LORD does not take place or come true"
      Deuteronomy 18:21-22 NIV

Saturday, August 18, 2012

Christians agree with Moroni 8:18; Why don't Mormons?

Christians agree with Moroni 8:18; Why don't Mormons?

Christians agree with Moroni 8:18; Why don't Mormons?

References

[1] Moroni 8:18; Book of Mormon
"For I know that God is not a partial God, neither a changeable being; but he is unchangeable from all eternity to all eternity."

[2] Lorenzo Snow; “The Grand Destiny of Man,” Deseret Evening News, July 20, 1901, 22
"As man is God once was; as God is man may be"

[3] Joseph Smith Quote; History of the Church, Vol. 6, Ch. 14, p. 305-6; Joseph Smith, Jr. "King Follet Discourse"
"God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens!  That is the great secret. ...I am going to tell you how God came to be God.  We have imagined and supposed that God was God from all eternity.  I will refute that idea, and take away the veil,..."

See also:

http://WeAgreeWith818.com
Isaiah 44:6,8 
Romans 11:33-36

Tuesday, August 14, 2012

A Mormon Testimony is 60% "The Church", not Christ Focused

A Mormon Testimony is 60% "The Church", not Christ Focused




A Mormon Testimony is 60%

References

[1] Testimony Glove, Liahona, Oct. 2008
[2] John 14:6 NIV

Prescriptive LDS Testimony:
  • 1. I know that God is our Heavenly Father and He loves us.
  • 2. I know that His Son, Jesus Christ, is our Savior and Redeemer.
  • 3. I know that Joseph Smith is a prophet of God. He restored the gospel of Jesus Christ to the earth and translated the Book of Mormon by the power of God.
  • 4. I know that The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is the Lord’s Church on the earth today.
  • 5. I know that this Church is led by a living prophet who receives revelation.


References:
John 14:6 NIV

http://www.lds.org/liahona/2008/10/testimony-glove

Monday, August 13, 2012

Kirtland Banking Society

Kirtland Banking Society




Kirtland Safety Society

References

[1]    'Anti-Banking Company', "Mormon Enigma", by Newell & Avery, pp. 62

[2]    Painesville Republican, Feb. 22, 1838, Conflict at Kirtland, pg 297
         Joseph declared that the audible voice of God, instructed him to establish a banking-anti-banking institution."
         "[The Kirtland Safety Society] Shall swallow up all other Banks"

[3]    "No Man Knows My History", Fawn Brodie, pp. 199-202

[4]    "Joseph Smith As An Administrator," M.A. thesis, BYU, May 1969, pp. 80-88
         Smith tried in court and found guilty

[5]    "The Mormon Murders", by Naifeh & Smith, 1988, pp 25-26
         Prospective clients shown boxes of sand with a thin layer of coins on top


Friday, August 10, 2012

Book of Abraham; Facsimile #3 Examined


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See also:

Facsimile #1 Examination Facsimile #2 Examined


References:


Joseph Smith's Interpretation
http://www.lds.org/scriptures/pgp/abr/fac-3

Modern Eqyptological Interpretation
http://www.bookofabraham.com/boamathie/BOA_6.html

Joseph Smith's Interpretation Figure Modern Egyptological Interpretation
Abraham sitting upon Pharaoh’s throne, by the politeness of the king, with a crown upon his head, representing the Priesthood, as emblematical of the grand Presidency in Heaven; with the scepter of justice and judgment in his hand. 1 This is Osiris
Writing above figure:  "Recitation by Osiris, Foremost of the Westerners"
The "atef" crown also identifies him as Osiris
King Pharaoh, whose name is given in the characters above his head. 2 This figure is female not male.
Writing above figure:  "Isis the great, the god's mother"
Signifies Abraham in Egypt as given also in Figure 10 of Facsimile No. 1. 3 This is a libation table (wine, oils, etc.)
Prince of Pharaoh, King of Egypt, as written above the hand. 4 This figure is female not male.
Writing above figure:  "Maat, mistress of the gods."
Shulem, one of the king’s principal waiters, as represented by the characters above his hand. 5 This is the deceased individual wearing the traditional cone of perfumed grease and lotus flower on his head.
Writing above figure:  "The Osiris Hôr, justified forever"
Olimlah, a slave belonging to the prince. 6 Not a slave, this is Anubis, guide of the dead, who is there to support the deceased.
Writing above figure:  "Recitation by Anubis, who makes protection(?), foremost of the embalming booth,…"


Thursday, August 9, 2012

Book of Abraham; Facsimile #2 Examined


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See also:

Facsimile #1 Examination Facsimile #3 Examined


References:

Joseph Smith's Interpretation available at: http://www.lds.org/scriptures/pgp/abr/fac-2
Modern Eqyptological Interpretation at:  http://www.bookofabraham.com/boamathie/BOA_7.html
FAIR LDS explanation at http://en.fairmormon.org/Book_of_Abraham/Joseph_Smith_Papyri

Joseph Smith's Interpretation
Figure
Modern Egyptological Interpretation
Kolob, The residence of God
1
The god Khnumu.
Stands next to Kolob
2
"Amun-Re", god with two faces representing rising & setting sun.
God sitting on his throne, clothed with power and authority
3
"Horus-Re" riding in his boat
Raukeeyang; also the number 1,000; The measuring of time of Oliblish
4
Represents Sokar, not a number
Enish-go-on-dosh; a governing planet
5
Cow of Hathor, behind which stands a uzat-headed goddes holding a sacred tree.
Represents this earth in it's four quarters
6
The four (4) sons of Horus, they can represent the four cardinal points of earth
God sitting on his throne, revealing through the heavens the grand Key-words of the Priesthood
7
The god "Min", an ithyphallic god; that is, a sexually aroused male deity.
Contains writings that can only be revealed in the temple.
8
"grant that the soul of Osiris Shechonk may live."
Ought not to be revealed at the present time.
9
"the netherworld (below the earth) and his great waters"
10
"O might god, lord of heaven and earth"
11
"O god of the sleeping ones from the time of creation"
(Read in order 11, 10, 9, 8)
Will be given in the own due time of the Lord
12
"near" and "wrap"
13
"which made by"
14
"breathings"
15
"this book"
16
"and may this soul and its possessor never be desecrated in the netherworld"
17
"May this tomb never be desecrated"
18
"I am Djabty in the house of Benben in Heliopolis, so exalted and glorious.  [I am] copulating bull without equal.  [I am] that mighty god in the house of Benben of Heliopolis… that might god…"
19
"You shall be as that god, the Busirian"
20
21
No Annotation Given
22
Writing: "The name of this mighty god"
23
Figures 22,23; Baboons are adoring souls of that realm

Wednesday, August 8, 2012

Book of Abraham; Facsimile #1 Examined


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See also:
Facsimile #2 Examined Facsimile #3 Examined


References:

Joseph Smith's Interpretation available at: http://www.lds.org/scriptures/pgp/abr/fac-1
Modern Eqyptological Interpretation compiled at:  http://www.bookofabraham.com/boamathie/BOA_6.html

Joseph Smith's Interpretation Figure Modern Egyptological Interpretation
The Angel of the Lord. 1 The spirit or "ba" of Hôr
(The deceased fellow)
Abraham fastened upon an altar 2 The deceased:  His name was "Hôr"
The idolatrous priest of Elkenah 3 Anubis
(see original image not facsimile, this figure was originally portrayed with the head of a Jackal)
The altar for sacrifice by the idolatrous priests, standing before the gods of Elkenah, Libnah, Mahmackrah, Korash, and Pharaoh. 4 A common funerial bier or "lion couch"
The idolatrous god of Elkenah. 5 Canopic jars containing the deceased's internal organs.
The idolatrous god of Libnah. 6
The idolatrous god of Mahmackrah. 7
The idolatrous god of Korash. 8
The idolatrous god of Pharaoh. 9 This is the god "Horus"
Abraham in Egypt 10 A libation table bearing wines, oils, etc.
Common in Egypt.
Designed to represent the pillars of heaven, as understood by the Egyptians. 11 A palace façade, called a "serekh"
Raukeeyang, signifying expanse, or the firmament over our heads; but in this case, in relation to this subject, the Egyptians meant it to signify Shaumau, to be hig, or the heavens, answering to the Hebrew word, Shaumahyeen. 12 This is just the water that the crocodile swims in.

Monday, August 6, 2012

Joseph Smith; The Reluctant Polygamist

"During the third and final appearance, the angel came with a drawn sword, threatening Joseph with destruction unless he went forward and obeyed the commandment fully."
Plural Marriage in Kirtland and Nauvoo, paragraph #8
https://www.lds.org/topics/plural-marriage-in-kirtland-and-nauvoo



[1] "In Sacred Loneliness: The Plural Wives of Joseph Smith", Todd Compton, pp 80-81
Zina remained conflicted until a day in October, apparently, when Joseph sent [her older brother] Dimick to her with a message: an angel with a drawn sword had stood over Smith and told him that if he did not establish polygamy, he would lose "his position and his life."

[2] Hyrum Smith, Elder Benjamin F. Johnson's Letter to George S. Gibbs, 1903
"Joseph was commanded to take more wives and he waited until an angel with a drawn sword stood before him and declared that if he longer delayed fulfilling that command he would slay him."

See Also

There is another account which indicates that the sword may have been a "flaming sword"

"While it was a great trial for Mercy to enter into plural marriage, it was even a greater trial for Mary to consent to it. Truly, it was the most difficult thing both ever had to do. It was equally difficult for Hyrum. The principle of plural marriage was given as early as 1831. Joseph Smith had inquired of God to know and understand wherein He justified His prophets of old as touching upon the principle and doctrine of their having plural wives and concubines. The principle was then revealed by the Lord to Joseph. He was commanded to obey it. He did not immediately comply. Then, according to Apostle George A. Smith, an angel with a flaming sword appeared to the Prophet Joseph and warned him that unless he obeyed it, he would be destroyed."
(Don Cecil Corbett, Mary Fielding Smith, Daughter of Britain: Portrait of Courage [Salt Lake City: Deseret Book Co., 1966], 154.)
http://deseretbook.com/Mary-Fielding-Smith-Daughter-Britain-Don-C-Corbett/i/5090945

More flaming sword mentions here:
http://mormondiscussions.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=26067&p=640152

Saturday, August 4, 2012

The LDS Word of Wisdom; Enjoy Beer!


D&C 89:16-18

 16 All grain is good for the food of man; as also the fruit of the vine; that which yieldeth fruit, whether in the ground or above the ground—

 17 Nevertheless, wheat for man, and corn for the ox, and oats for the horse, and rye for the fowls and for swine, and for all beasts of the field, and barley for all useful animals, and for mild drinks, as also other grain.

 18 And all saints who remember to keep and do these sayings, walking in obedience to the commandments, shall receive health in their navel and marrow to their bones;

Friday, August 3, 2012

How does the LDS church justify deliberate deception at mormon.org

How does the LDS church justify deliberate deception at mormon.org


How does the LDS church justify deliberate deception at mormon.org


References:

[1] Official LDS website; mormon.org; Joseph Smith biography:  "Devoted Husband and Father"
      http://mormon.org/beliefs/joseph-smith#a_devoted_husband_and_father   

[2] LDS Gospel Principles, 2010, Ch 31
      http://www.lds.org/manual/gospel-principles/chapter-31-honesty
      Q: What does it mean to be completely honest?
      A:  To become completely honest, we must look carefully at our lives. If there are ways in which we are being even the least bit dishonest, we should repent of them immediately.



Thursday, August 2, 2012

Joseph Smith vs Warren Jeffs; Visualized

Joseph Smith vs Warren Jeffs; Visualized



Joseph Smith vs Warren Jeffs; Visualized
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See Also

 Joseph Smith and his many wives
Thumbnail of the many wives of Joseph Smith

References

Ref. Comparisons Prophet Description/Link
1J Number of wives Joseph 34 Wives
1W Number of wives Warren 87 Wives
1W Number of wives Warren 78 Wives
2J Age of Youngest Wife Joseph Helen Mar Kimball age 14 @ LDS.org
2W Age of Youngest Wife Warren 12 Years old
3J Other Men's Wives Joseph 11 Married Wives
See also essay @ LDS.org
3W Other Men's Wives Warren Polygamy in Primetime' page 31-32
4J Mother Daughter Wives Joseph Sylvia & Patty Sessions
4W Mother Daughter Wives Warren Warren Jeffs & Joseph Smith, by Doris Hanson (Presentation)
5J Biological Sister Wives Joseph Emily & Eliza Partridge
5J Biological Sister Wives Joseph Sarah & Maria Lawrence
Also Johnson Sisters
Also Huntington Sisters
Total 4 Pairs = 8 Wives
5W Biological Sister Wives Warren Warren Jeffs & Joseph Smith, by Doris Hanson (Presentation)
6J Under age 18 Wives Joseph 7 under 18
6W Under age 18 Wives Warren SL Tribune: 'two dozen'

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